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PostSubject: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:53 pm



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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:54 pm

also join me in complaining about his lack of visor here
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:26 pm

WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN?

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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:08 pm

:-/

Erm, is it just me or is this guy not as cool as Canderous? And how did the mandalorians forget Revan/Canderous and their aid of the republic *against* the Sith? It's only 300 years. That's like nothing in Star Wars time.

:-/


(Sorry. Don't mean to insult anyone, but if I'm gonna play a mandalorian I don't really want to follow a... erm, arrogant asshat, no matter how tough he is.)
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:45 pm

Aster Corbett wrote:
:-/

Erm, is it just me or is this guy not as cool as Canderous? And how did the mandalorians forget Revan/Canderous and their aid of the republic *against* the Sith? It's only 300 years. That's like nothing in Star Wars time.

:-/


(Sorry. Don't mean to insult anyone, but if I'm gonna play a mandalorian I don't really want to follow a... erm, arrogant asshat, no matter how tough he is.)

I would have made better artwork for an arrogant asshat. This painting looks like second grade garbage on your local elementary school walls.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:38 pm

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I would have made better artwork for an arrogant asshat. This painting looks like second grade garbage on your local elementary school walls.


I just find it hard to suspend my disbelief. So some gladiator randomly calls himself Mandalore and actual mandalorians buy it? What. I'd expect them to laugh (and then shoot the guy) more than take such a nutjob seriously.

And what is up with his helmet? It's got no visor and has spikes like an oni troll.

GTFO OUR EU, Dorkalore.

(To address your second statement, yes I agree. I also wish you'd drawn on the walls of my elementary school. That would have been an epic win.)
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:50 pm

I just don't like how small his head looks.

And usually a Mandalore is chosen and not self-proclaimed.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:35 pm

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I just don't like how small his head looks.

And usually a Mandalore is chosen and not self-proclaimed.


Dorkalore must have a small brain.

I know-- I thought the same thing about his 'declaration of sovereignty.' Who is he to claim leadership of all Mandalorians when he's just a random gladiator. Surely he can't be that good. He's only a man; even if he is some kind of super champion that's no reason for people to follow him.

No matter how militaristic the society, chosen leaders are chosen for the purpose of leading. Just because he can beat the snot out of people does not mean he is qualified to lead the Mandalorians to glory...

Oh Dorkalore. What will we do with you?
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:31 am

Okay, HATERS, did you all not see him with his shirt off?

:p

While there are some glaring problems, I'm pretty much okay with this. You have to give the writers some credit because, let's face it, trying to please every single EU fandom would require the research and brainpower of someone trying to understand quantum physics. They're not going to hit every little detail, like how Mandalores are not "self-proclaimed," but overall they captured the culture and mindset of Mandalorians really damn well.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:49 am

I dont like the look at all really. I also dont like that he was, or called himself, mand'alor while fighting for show in a duel ring. The leads me to believe that he A) hadnt earned the role yet, or B) disgraced the role by fighting in noob rings.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:19 am

Lets just say he's a mondo douche bag and leave it at that... The only way it would be even partially acceptable to other mando's for him to proclaim himself mandalore is if he was the most worthy which is something that would be hard to prov in some osik'la arena in the shabs end of the galaxy, and if he were a mando already! Which judging by the fact that he was fighting with out armour on his torso and he has no visor in his helmet, which is practically THE defining aspect of mando armour! Therefore I shall label him as a poser, and almight douche! THE END

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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:28 am

Just as a note, roughly 90% of all of history's great leaders were douchebag posers at one point or another. But if they can get their people to rally behind them (or scare the people into following them, whatever), then the douchebag poser gains power. Not every Mand'alor is going to be a shiny, all-Mandalorian superstar with the perfect history, ideals, and... attire. That would just be boring. This Mand'alor brought up a game plan that the rest of the Mandalorians agreed to. If there was a worthier Mand'alor in the ranks at the time of the "self-proclamation," I'm sure he/she would have stepped up.

And HELLO? Were we not just complaining for 400 years about how stupid we think the Mandalorian Neo-Crusader visors are, and now when a dude isn't wearing one, we continue to complain? Razz I know, it's really not smart to go into battle without a visor, but I'm just saying.

Speculation: this douchebag poser Mandalore is trying out a bigger window in his helmet with which to put a visor. Or it was a simple design flaw of the artist so that us fans could see his face.

What I want to know is when there's gonna be a female Mand'alor. Now THERE'S something to complain about.
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:47 am

nooo whyyyyy whyyyyyyy!!!

They should have resurrected Canderous from the dead his mere presence would have crushed this self proclaimed mind controlling.....errr dikut'la into pulp!

Anyways I'd rather have the old KOTOR helms than this guy or the original mandalore helmet that Canderous had what about that pfffft...
I know it is proabably hard and all but honestly if they were truly dedicated at research and all they would have found the true mandalore and got it all right...wouldn't they?

I so wanna Team Kill this guy....

It's like having some random dude come in and say I'm gonna be the new chanceller of the Republic so stuff you....I highly doubt even non mandos would stand for that...it must be some mind control device that he is using...
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:01 pm

From from the perspective of an outsider who's not following the lore on this game, I watched the visuals in the video at the top of the thread, but I didn't have the sound on.

It seems that for whatever reason, this rendition of the Mandalorian culture in this timeframe is backtracking to the original conceptual ideas that the Mandalorians are based off the ancient Roman culture.

I guess when LucasArts worked on this, they never bothered to read the Traviss interview that her rendition of the Mandalorians is based of the Celts.

At least that's the impression I get off the bare-chested visual and the visor-less helmet. That's pretty consistent with the Roman culture.

Like I said, I'm not following this very closely, but I'm disappointed that LucasArts seems to have gone Roman rather than Celt. I much prefer the Celtic mirroring of the Mandalorians.

Okay, thread goes back to all of you! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New Mandalore on SW:TOR   Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:01 am

I think that's a great observation, Mara, and I would agree. And while it is a digression from the Celtic path that KT took, I would also like to speculate that the Mandalorians are allowed to evolve in their culture and aesthetic styles. I mean, only a little over a century ago men wore ascotts and dress coats and top hats and women wore corsets and hoop skirts, and even in the past decades there have been pretty dramatic changes in clothing/hairstyles and all of that.

It may not be too big of a stretch to say that over 3,000 years the Mandos went from a Roman culture to a Celtic one--I mean, humans did it in 1,000 years, right? Moving from a feudal society to non-feudal societies? It's an interesting and not all wrong comparison to make--Mandos and Romans. Trying to conquer, breeding soldiers, all of that.
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